Friday, March 19, 2010

Is god of islam deceiver?

Hi, Readers here are some of the interesting things islam and its sharia law says about deception. I can bet most of muslims might not be aware of these.

In Koran, Sura 3:54

The Iraqi Information minister quoted Sura 3:54, saying that "Allah was the best of deceivers". What actually is this word?

Sura 3:54 says that Allah "makara." The Arabic word makara means to deceive, scheme, or plan. The Arabic Bible in Genesis 3:1 uses the same word for Satan. However, the Vand Dyck and Jerusalem Bibles use the root word hayala.

This word "schemer" (maakir) is a very strong word which Wehr and Abdel-Nour define as "sly, cunning, wily". The Arabic-Arabic unjid defines it with "khuda`a" which means exactly the same thing (by Bill Campbell in his book The Qur'an and the Bible in the Light of History and Science p.217-218).

The phrase of Allah "being the best deceiver". "kheir ol makarein" is also used of Allah in Suras 8:30; 10:22.

Allah is the most deceitful in Sura 3:54 and in Sura 30:8

In sura 10:21 Allah is referred to be the fastest in deceit

Another reference to the deceit of Allah: 7:99

and (they) Deceived and Allah Deceived and Allah is the deceivest of deceivers (Sura 3:54)

Nearly the same in verses 3,54; 8,30; 27,50; 13,42; 10,21; (14,46); (43,79); 86,15f.; 7,100


Translations of Sura 3:54

English translations of the Qur'an seem to conceal the true meaning.

"And (the unbelievers) Plotted and planned, And Allah too planned, And the best of planners Is Allah." (Yusuf Ali 3:54)

"And they devised, and God devised, and God is the best of devisers" (Arberry Sura 3:between 45 and 50

"The unbelievers among the children of Israel plotted against Isa and Allah also devised a plan to raise him up, and Allah is the best in planning." (Malik 3:54)

"And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them); and Allah is the best of schemers." Pickthall 3:54

"And they planned, and Allah also planned; and Allah is the Best of planners." (translated by Maulawi Sher Ali, an Ahmaddiyya)

Yusef Ali, in his version of the Qu'ran, says that Makara can be "good or
bad", positive or negative. ( p. 156, note on Sura 3:54)

In Farsi, the word, "Makr" and "Makar" is from the Arabic, and it apparently is always negative.


Interpretation of Sura 3:54

The person who is a Makir (Same form as the word Kafir) speaking of
the attribute of a person is one who would outwit someone else to cause them harm. It speaks of one who would reveal the opposite of what he plans to do. The reality is that he is scheming evil for that person. So yes there is the sense of planning and scheming but mostly it means to trick, outwit and deceive for the purpose of overpowering and conquering the other. A Makir is one who devises a secret scheme against someone else. Synonyms would be cheating, defrauding, double-crossing, deceiving, tricking, in all cases Makara has the sense of defeating the one you have tricked.

Although Quranic verses are rarely understood in context of verses that surround them, the best meaning I could come up with in the context of the verse before it is that some have pretended to believe because they were trying to deceive Muhammad into believing that they have accepted his message. Muhammad however knew of their scheme because they cannot outwit Allah. So the literal translation that best represents the intention of the verse is: and (they) Deceived and Allah Deceived and Allah is the deceivest of deceivers
Sura 3:54 In Arabic;
Wa Makaru wa makara Allah wa Allah Amkaru al Makireen.

The context of the story is very important. Sura 3 is regarded to be the great dialogue of Muhammad with the Christians. Al Tabari says here that the deceit of Allah applies to the time where the Jews wanted to kill Isa the son of Mary. In order not to be killed someone had the face of Isa put on him so he was killed instead of Isa the son of Mary. This is how Allah deceived the Jews.

Strikingly when it comes to the cross the very central part of biblical teaching Allah is called khayr ulmakirin the most deceitful. Some one
wnats to conceal that he lost the battle on the cross! Here the true nature of Allah is revealed!

The Hadiths

Telling flattering lies to make peace is OK! "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Bukhari vol.3:857 p.533

"Narrated Jabir : The Prophet said, 'Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf (i.e. a Jew).' Muhammad bin Maslama replied, 'Do you like me to kill him?' The Prophet replied in the affirmative. Muhammad bin Maslama said, 'Then allow me to say what I like.' [i.e. to lie]. The Prophet replied 'I do (i.e. allow you).'" Bukhari vol.4:271 p.168

Bukhari vol.3:687 p.415 "Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah Allah's Apostle said, 'Who would kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf as has harmed Allah and His Apostle? Muhammad bin Maslama (got up and) said, 'I will kill him.' So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to Ka'b and said, 'I want a loan of one or two Wasqs of foodgrains.'" After dickering over what to hold as mortgage, they agreed that Muhammad bin Maslama would mortgage his weapons. So he promised him that he would come with his weapons next time."

Bukhari vol.5:360 p.248

Sahih Muslim vol.3:4436 p.990-991

War is guile. Ibn-i-Majah vol.4:2833 p.181

Allah Deceived the Jews, and His Deception of Christians Has Been Complete Ever Since

When Allah allegedly had only the appearance of Jesus die on the cross, that deceived the Jews who thought they had crucified him.

Allah Deceives Even Muslims

"...and then only this nation (i.e., Muslims) will remain, including their hypocrites. Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognise Him.' Then Allah will come to them in a shape they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, (no doubt) You are our Lord,' and they will follow Him." Bukhari vol.8:577 p.375. Bukhari vol.9:532 p.395-396 says the same thing. See also Sahih Muslim vol.1:349 p.115.

Now one Muslim observed that the word "deceive" is not present in the quote, Allah did not speak any lying words, and this occurs in Heaven, not on earth. However, it is not required that the word "deceives" be used to deceive people, as when Allah impersonated one who is not Allah. Those who believed Allah's words when Allah chose to be in this false shape go to Hell. If this is not deception, then what is? We can all agree that this hadith teaches that at a future time Allah will deliberately misrepresent himself to Muslims in a "shape other than they know".

What is Allah's shape? I have not (yet) heard a Muslim say, but here is what Bukhari vol.9:532 p.396 tells us. "When there remain only those who used to worship Allah (Alone), both the obedient ones and the mischievous ones, [and they will say] 'and now we are waiting for our Lord.' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than that which they saw the first time, and He will says, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say, 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation. These people will try to prostrate but their backs will be rigid like one piece of a wood (and they will not be able to prostrate). Then the bridge will be laid across Hell,."

So, despite what Muslims today might say, Bukhari says that Allah will have a true physical form I Heaven, and Allah himself will also appear to Muslims in a false physical form, as sort of a temptation to them. In contrast, James 1:13 says, "When tempted, no one should say, 'God is tempting me.' For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone."

So I am asking muslims did allah Deceive You Too?


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